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Post by moyaselene on Mar 3, 2003 13:43:41 GMT -5
just wrote to scifi weekly, but it's not my best work, but here you go. Every story has an ending, so why doesn't ours? Dark Angel was cancellled before it's time. The story was there, the rating's were recovering, yet FOX still chose to back the ill-fated Firefly instead. Now, in the wake of Firefly's cancellation, the money is once again availible to produce Dark Angel. However, FOX will do nothing to continue the story they cut off. The continue to hold the rights, they make money from products (Dark Angel posters, action figures, PS2 game, books, CD, and DVD's), but they don't want to actualy produce the show itself. Dark Angel was just a show, but it tackled real issues. The post-terrorist, third world, America Dark Angel is set in provides a strage look at our possible future when you consider the risks of entering this war on terrorism. The cast is as diverse as the issues. The main charaters include a man in a wheel chair and a multi-ethnic woman who lives with an African American lesbian. Dark Angel had a lot of real life value; as opposed to the short term, shocking, pointless reality tv shows being produced in mass quantity. Did anyone happen to catch last week's Twilight Zone on UPN? The show depicted a woman who was lead to believe that her son was being kidnapped for the entertainment of those who watched a new reality tv show called HOW MUCH DO YOU LOVE YOUR KID? In the end, the little boy was hospitalized and the father is shot by the mother. It is my belief that this was Inspired by Joe Millionair and other recent shows. Is this how FOX wants to be seen? Don't they want to have anything with redeaming value? Bringing back Dark Angel would ease their financial strain and improve their image. So, in conclusion, renew Dark Angel! Freak Nation was great, but it was no end. To cut a show down before it's time and not even conclude it is just wrong. Even Joss Weadon, who created Firefly, has said that to end a show without rapping up the plot is a betrayel of the fans. special thanks to tweed pants for the opening phrase. i really like it.
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Post by ML Fan on Mar 3, 2003 14:26:39 GMT -5
just wrote to scifi weekly, but it's not my best work, but here you go. Every story has an ending, so why doesn't ours? Dark Angel was cancellled before it's time. The story was there, the rating's were recovering, yet FOX still chose to back the ill-fated Firefly instead. Now, in the wake of Firefly's cancellation, the money is once again availible to produce Dark Angel. However, FOX will do nothing to continue the story they cut off. The continue to hold the rights, they make money from products (Dark Angel posters, action figures, PS2 game, books, CD, and DVD's), but they don't want to actualy produce the show itself. Dark Angel was just a show, but it tackled real issues. The post-terrorist, third world, America Dark Angel is set in provides a strage look at our possible future when you consider the risks of entering this war on terrorism. The cast is as diverse as the issues. The main charaters include a man in a wheel chair and a multi-ethnic woman who lives with an African American lesbian. Dark Angel had a lot of real life value; as opposed to the short term, shocking, pointless reality tv shows being produced in mass quantity. Did anyone happen to catch last week's Twilight Zone on UPN? The show depicted a woman who was lead to believe that her son was being kidnapped for the entertainment of those who watched a new reality tv show called HOW MUCH DO YOU LOVE YOUR KID? In the end, the little boy was hospitalized and the father is shot by the mother. It is my belief that this was Inspired by Joe Millionair and other recent shows. Is this how FOX wants to be seen? Don't they want to have anything with redeaming value? Bringing back Dark Angel would ease their financial strain and improve their image. So, in conclusion, renew Dark Angel! Freak Nation was great, but it was no end. To cut a show down before it's time and not even conclude it is just wrong. Even Joss Weadon, who created Firefly, has said that to end a show without rapping up the plot is a betrayel of the fans. special thanks to tweed pants for the opening phrase. i really like it. I liked your letter moyaselene. I do have a few suggestions for you. I think that it would make your letter stronger if you included some ratings facts comparing Firefly and Dark Angel as well as going into more detail about Dark Angel's diversity and how problems dealt with on Dark Angel are often what real people in our society face today. Another suggestion I had would be to try to focus your letter on Dark Angel as much as possible and take out the part about the Twilight Zone, since it's not on Fox as well as the Joss Whedon quote because, he doesn't work for Fox. Another suggestion I have is that I think that you should try to really emphasize the fact that you want Dark Angel to receive both a continuation and proper conclusion, whether it be through a mini-series, t.v. movie, or big screen film, etc. I also think that spell check will help make your letter clearer, because, I know that it helped me sort out my thoughts as well as catching things that I might have missed as I wrote and posted my letter. I hope that this feedback is helpful to you and again, I think you did a good job of combining Dark Angel's social conscience with all of the the merchadise that Dark Angel has. ;D Just my thoughts.
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Post by moyaselene on Mar 3, 2003 17:31:23 GMT -5
thanks for the feedback. it really isn't my best. i have learned, however, that if scifi wants to use something; they re-word and correct spelling. they usred one i wrote over the summer, but i don't think this one will make it. i realize twilight zone and jos have nothing to do with fox, but they were just supposed to be examples of the rest of the industries opinion of them. i wanted to talk more on firefly, but since it's SCIFI weekly, i didn't want to be negative about any scifi show. eh, like i said, not liking this one. started well, but i should have not rushed through like i did. for some reason, wanted to get it done before class........... is there a list of affiliates anyplace? i just realized i cna't name very many.
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Post by ML Fan on Mar 3, 2003 20:13:09 GMT -5
I'm just reposting this idea since, it hasn't been posted anywhere in this thread after the first page. UncleGordo had the idea of contacting Fox's affliates about Dark Angel using Dark Angel, Firefly, and 24's ratings and Dark Angel's diversity. He also complied a list of Fox's affliates with their contact info, which I will be happy to send anyone who wants them via PM on DAR. Everyone is also welcome to post their letters they've written to the affliates as well as any responses they receive.
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Post by mjwillia on Mar 4, 2003 7:46:25 GMT -5
I really liked Moyaselene's letter! Since the general consensus is JC is a better target than FOX for both the banner ad and our letter writing campaign, I had an idea about contact JC... Here it is: community.sierra.com/WebX?14@@.efa5f77 this is the address for the forum on the Sierra: James Cameron's Dark Angel Website for the game. What if each evening one of us were to copy the posts containing our letters to JC asking for him to either conclude or continue DA and post them on that forum? Somebody who works for JC must be monitoring that site and would report these letters to JC don't you think? An added advantage would be that other DA fans that may not be writing letter might start writing letters! Do you think the mods on that site would allow us to post our letters there? Or, would they get mad? We could either individually post our letter there plus here or one of us (I would be willing to do it) could post the "day's letters" there each evening... What do you all think?
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Post by moyaselene on Mar 4, 2003 17:02:54 GMT -5
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Post by moyaselene on Mar 4, 2003 17:06:05 GMT -5
:)thank you
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Post by ML Fan on Mar 4, 2003 17:17:41 GMT -5
I still think that we need to write to James Cameron with ratings facts about Dark Angel, Firefly, and 24 and Dark Angel's diversity, as well as Fox's affliates because I think that it will show him and the affliates that we are serious about wanting a continuation and proper conclusion to Dark Angel, as well as showing him and Fox's affliates that there is still interest and a loyal fanbase to Dark Angel, even a year after Dark Angel's cancellation. I would also worry that message boards would be ignored by the people we are trying to target, just my thoughts.
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Post by moyaselene on Mar 4, 2003 22:12:13 GMT -5
i beleive the point of the idea is to get more contact w/ jc. i believe that if we find the site for his official fan club, it may really get to him. it's be a way to show him what is being written to everyone. he may enjoy reading a nasty letter to fox. i don't know, but since we're only talkiing about like 2 seconds of cutting and pasting a day (once we find the approrpriate website) it might be worth looking in to. if it doesn't get to him, it's not a big sacrafice on our part to put out the effort and it might get a few cameron fans to write in themselves.
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Post by Aerie on Mar 4, 2003 23:08:01 GMT -5
ML Fan and moyaselene both make a lot of sense.
We can't lose by trying every way we can to get to Jim Cameron.
Remember, it's his assistants that we hope will see our results. He won't see anything unless we can get through to some of his people. We must pique their interest in any way we can.
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Post by mjwillia on Mar 5, 2003 8:55:54 GMT -5
It seems to me that it wouldn't hurt to try posting our letters on JC official websites that moyaselene found.
We would still "snail mail" our letters and email them.
Also, if someone didn't have time to post their letter on JC's official site then they could email me with their letter and I would post it for them.
That would give our letters 3 "chances" to be noticed by JC: 1. Snail mail, 2. Email and 3. Posted on his official site.
It can't hurt.
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Post by mjwillia on Mar 5, 2003 14:17:32 GMT -5
I don't understand how posting the letters on JC's official sites would make our "snail mail" letters miss JC?
It would only be an "Additional" chance for the letters to be seen.
In a way, the letters would almost be like the banner ad.
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Post by UncleGordo on Mar 5, 2003 15:10:20 GMT -5
Surprise !! Surprise !! One of the web sites www.thefutoncritic.com that I utilized for my research into the ratings/market share and viewing audience of the Dark Angel and Twenty-four has been re-activated as of the 3th of March, so I have updated the information as to the Tuesday 9:00 to 10:00 PM time slot that DA occupied in the 2000-2001 season and was replaced by Vermin' pet series 24 in the 2001-2002 and then again this season, here is the ratings info for your perusal. DARK ANGEL 2000-2001 Tuesday 9:00 to 10:00PM average wkly viewing audience 10.24M average wkly ratings/market share 6.56/10.07 TWENTY-FOUR 2001-2002 Tuesday 9:00 to 10:00PM average wkly viewing audience 8.62M average wkly ratings/market share 5.42/8.17 TWENTY-FOUR 2002-2003 Tuesday 9:00 to 10:00PM ratings for the first 12 episodes of this season average wkly viewing audience 11.05M average wkly ratings/market share 6.74/10.06 It would seem to me that these figures demonstrates what a colossal blunder that Vermain and the Fox network made when they cancelled DA. The viewing audience that 24 has attracted over the past year and a half is with the benefit of an extensive advertising and promotional campaign, and I might add that the DA was luck if it received any promotion in the 2000-2001 season. You can plainly see that even with an aggressive advertising campaign that currently 24 is barely beating the numbers that DA got in the 2000-2001 season If you are utilizing the ratings/market share as the theme for your letters I would updated the info that you are using.
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Post by Ginny on Mar 5, 2003 16:51:56 GMT -5
Is there a reason why Charles Eglee is not also a "target"? Wasn't he a "co"-executive producer and wouldn't he also have influence and interest?
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Post by moyaselene on Mar 5, 2003 17:33:38 GMT -5
eh, we can find the official fan club. i jus tdidn't see it in the few minutes i had to look before i had to go out.
also, was a decision ever made about the online add? was a time resereved? do we have a list off addresses for people to write/ e-mail?
i think we should have
fox jc ce cinescape (or something similar) and maybe ja as well
what do you all think?
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