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Post by orchidee on Jan 25, 2003 6:17:19 GMT -5
Uncle Gordo, ML Fan, you're on
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Post by ML Fan on Jan 25, 2003 13:20:56 GMT -5
UncleGordo had the idea of contacting Fox's affliates about Dark Angel using Dark Angel, Firefly, and 24's ratings and Dark Angel's diversity. He also complied a list of Fox's affliates with their contact info, which I will be happy to send anyone who wants them via PM on DAR. Everyone is also welcome to post their letters they've written to the affliates as well as any responses they receive. Thank you, orchidee and Star24 for all of your help and support with this. ;D
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Post by mjwillia on Jan 25, 2003 14:48:08 GMT -5
This is the letter I sent via both snail mail and email to all the affilates (It won't fit in a single post. Here is part 1.):
Dear:
As the corporate owner/operator of a number of the AFFILIATES of the Fox Television Network (FTN) I am writing to ask you if you have accessed the loss in profits you have incurred due to both FTN’s poor programming decisions and FTN’s poor customer service.
First, FTN’s poor programming decisions. Overall, FTN finished fourth in the 2002 Fall Season’s ratings for 18 to 49 year old viewers losing 12% of this audience from last year. “John Doe,” “Fast lane,” “Girl’s Club,” and “Firefly” all failed to attract an audience and are either teetering on the brink of cancellation or have been cancelled. So why aren’t the Drama series attracting the much coveted 18 to 49 viewers? The answer is simple. Today’s 18 to 49 viewer is more sophisticated and demands QUALITY not just quantity. FTN in a move to improve profits for its shareholders scarified their QUALITY (and more expensive) drama series for what would be best described as “Cheap Imitation” drama series.
Case in point: FTN’s 2000-2001 Tuesday night drama series “Dark Angel” pilot episode was considered by Time Magazine to be the 10th best program of the year. Dark Angel’s 21 episodes for 2000-2001 was 229.6 millions for an actual weekly average of 10.9 million and compare that to the total viewing audience of Twenty-four’s 24 episodes for 2001-2002 was 206.8 million for an actual weekly average of 8.62 million. Thefutoncritic.com was rated the 9th valued series of the aforementioned season. However at some point during “Dark Angel’s” first season Gail Berman and Rene Echevarra decided to move Dark Angel’s second season to the demographic graveyard of Friday night at 8:00-9:00PM and then eventually to 9:00-10:00PM (an even worse demographic time slot) but even so “Dark Angel” was still able to attract an national average weekly viewing audience of 6.02 million and an national ratings/market share of 3.83/6.86 (out performing Firefly’s ratings/market share by 1.54 million viewers.) “Dark Angel” exemplifies the best of socially responsible TV. “Dark Angel” is about a courageous young woman of a mixed ethnic background that is fighting for her rights, a male hero is admired for his intellect and the fact that he is wheel-chair bound is only used to show his strength of character, there is a positive portrayal of an African American gay woman and I can not forget to mention the entire “normal humans” vs. “genetically enhanced humans” dichotomy of the future being seen as a portrayal of everyone’s essential rights to: life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. What can be more American than that?
FTN claimed to have cancelled “Dark Angel” because the show failed to continue to increase its base of viewers and therefore FTN could not justify the expense of producing the show for a third season. No TV series continues to build its viewer base in the 9:00-10:00PM Friday timeslot. If FTN had wanted Dark Angel to continue to increase its viewer base then, FTN should have moved Dark Angel back to a prime time week night time slot. As for the expense of producing Dark Angel the show was produced in Vancouver B.C. Canada which allowed much of the production costs to be paid in Canadian dollars which when converted from U.S. funds is worth 62-64 cents approximately a 35 to 40% savings. If FTN had wanted to produce Dark Angel’s at a lesser expense then, FTN could have done away with the expensive make-up dependent characters who changed the dynamics of the original concept of the series and were not part of season one.
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Post by mjwillia on Jan 25, 2003 14:51:08 GMT -5
Here is part 2:
Second, FTN’s poor customer service. FTN asked people to commit to watching “Dark Angel” for two years and then they abruptly canceled the show with no sense of resolution or closure for the viewers. In doing so, FTN is hurting itself and their affiliates by letting loyal customers, people who sat through two seasons’ worth of commercials, end their experience feeling cheated. Does asking for a conclusion to a story that the Executives asked me to loyally watch seem like too much? How many people may even be boycotting all FOX channels?
Case in point: After 3 months of having our letters ignored, we fans of “Dark Angel” (who communicate and strategize via the internet) decided on a plan: Maybe FTN can ignore our voices, but can your firm afford the televisions sets of us fans being switched to your competitor’s stations? We (1.54 million of us if you go by the rating/market share difference between Dark Angel and Firefly) agreed to boycott FOX’s TV show “Firefly.” It is a shame that we fans had to go to that extreme. We fans don’t like to be negative but the FOX Network forced us to do something different in order to be heard. Now, the show “Firefly” has been canceled and FOX has lost even more money then they would have spent if they had only filmed a conclusion to “Dark Angel.”
FTN’s revenue was $9,725,000,000.00 at the fiscal year end date of 6/30/02. What was yours? Has your bottom line suffered due to FTN’s poor programming decisions? Can we encourage your firm to urge FTN to make better programming decisions that will treat their viewers as valuable assets? As a loyal fan of “Dark Angel” I would appreciate your assistance in petitioning FTN to take responsibility for Dark Angel and film a conclusion to the series.
Thank you for your consideration,
I got two replies to my emails: Both in basically said "thank you" for your input and that there was no way to bring back Dark Angel because the sets were gone and the cast members are involved in other projects. Sounds like the "Company Line" if you ask me.
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Post by ML Fan on Jan 25, 2003 17:23:38 GMT -5
Here's english_rose's letter, thanks for letting me post your letter on this thread, english_rose. ;D Dear ....... Please finish reading this letter before you consider disregarding this viewer's opinion. The Dark Angel fans have not given up hope of getting Dark Angel back for a third season or at the very least a TV Movie to tie up loose ends. Although we understand that the cast and crew have been released from their contracts and are currently involved in other projects, that does not rule out the Dark Angel project completely. Dark Angel was a program that had something for everyone and we want it back. With Logan being confined to a wheelchair in most of Season One and Max suffering from seizures, it gave people with disabilities a more believable hero and an insight to their own possiblities. The program was set in a possible future, more realistic than one portrayed in some movies. Dark Angel has diversity. Jessica Alba has a multi-ethnic background and plays Max, a product of genetic engineering (a topic that pops up regularly). The character of Original Cindy is not only African American, but also a Lesbian. Donald Lydecker is a recovering alcoholic and Logan fights a corrupt government from his wheelchair. Dark Angel covers racisium in a different way, by using the humans against transgenics approach. In conclusion, moving Dark Angel from a Tuesday night when aiming for the 18-40 year old demographic to a Friday night, when that age group are usually out partying, was not a smart move. Dark Angel has a great cast and crew, not to mention tonnes of loyal fans across the globe. Please give it another chance. Thank you for reading this letter Yours sincerely Kirsten Tapp I sent this letter around Christmas time while I was house sitting for my cousin and I only got the reply yesterday. Keep in mind that I live in New Zealand, but I still think four weeks is a long time for the mail to travel somewhere that should only take 3 - 5 days. I agree with you Uncle Gordo, it sounded like a cop out to me when I first read it as well. Then I actually wondered if Andrew Butcher had read the whole letter or with me being a British New Zealander, he just couldn't understand my perfect English when reading the letter.
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Post by ML Fan on Jan 25, 2003 17:31:06 GMT -5
Here's the response that english_rose received. Thanks again for letting me post your letter and response on this thread, english_rose!! ;D Dear Kirsten, I received in the mail today your letter regarding the cancellation of Dark Angel. We were all very disappointed when Dark Angel was cancelled. All of us here at News Corporation and at the FOX network had hoped for a third season-and many more-from Max and the rest of the cast. We had one of the world's best directors and a fantastic cast and crew on the show, but the show simply didn't receive enough viewing support from the general public, despite having many extremely loyal viewers such as you. Unfortunately, I have not heard of any plans for a TV movie or further episodes of the series. Thank you for watching both seasons so loyally, and please accept my apologies for the series having been cancelled. Sincerely, Andrew Butcher
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Post by UncleGordo on Jan 25, 2003 22:39:37 GMT -5
The following is a copy of the letter that I have been sending out to the major corporations who own a number of the independent affiliates of the Fox Network, this is the letter that www.showdown.net/newswire published on their web site on January 10, 2003, it is quite long so it has to posted in parts Here is Part One January 2, 2003 SINCLAIR BROADCAST GROUP INC. 10706 BEAVER DAM ROAD HUNT VALLEY, MARYLAND 21030 U.S.A. ATTN. MR. M. WILLIAM BUTLER VICE PRESIDENT/GROUP PROGRAMMING AND PROMOTIONS DEAR SIR Welcome to the “ABYSS” known as the “FOX TELEVISION NETWORK”, as the corporate owner/operator of one or more INDEPENDENT AFFILIATES associated with the Fox Network your company has been summoned to “center stage” as the target of the next phase of our campaign to achieve our goal for the resurrection of our favorite series in some form whether it is feature movies, a mini series or hopefully a 3rd season and beyond to give the disgruntled loyal and devoted fans closure to the numerous storylines that were left dangling at the end of the episode titled The Freak Nation which was supposed to be the finale episode of the 2nd season, and certainly not the final episode of the series. For the past seven months our group known as “SAVE THE DARK ANGEL CAMPAIGN” has made phone calls, sent countless letters, and numerous emails to protest the totally unbelievable and unjustified cancellation of the Fox Network’s series “Dark Angel”, which we believe was orchestrated by Gail Berman the President of Fox Broadcasting Entertainment and the co-called intelligentsia of the programming department. The Fox Network which has totally ignored our efforts to open a dialogue as to their reasoning behind this cancellation, supposately on the premise that the production costs were to high, well we beg to differ, this series was produced in Vancouver B.C. Canada which allowed much of the production costs to be paid in Canadian dollars which when converted to U.S. funds was worth 62-64 cents, which provided savings of 35 to 40% if those same costs were paid in U.S. funds this totally discredits Berman’s statement. If the series lost money in the second year than the total responsibility of those losses must be attributed to the actions of Berman and Echevarria in moving the series to the demographic graveyard of Friday night and convincing Cameron to introduce the trans-humans and freaks which required substantial make-up etc. But one thing is sure that the Dark Angel certainly attracted much better ratings/market share and viewing audience than Berman’s anointed series Firefly. I think that the numbers that I state later in this letter will more than speak volumes as to the competence of Berman and the rest of the Programming department at the Fox Network. Our campaign has now moved on from sending protest letters and emails to the Fox Network and we are now targeting the corporate parent of Fox namely Newscorp Limited and the Independent Affiliates of the Fox Network., and we will also be blitzing the major newspapers of the country to get our campaign into the public domain and to cause the Fox Network and their executives as much embarrassment as we can possibly inflict on what is already a dubious public image. The public relation disaster they created by totally ignoring the millions of fans of Dark Angel will ultimately affect the Fox Network and their independent affiliates’ bottom lines
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Post by UncleGordo on Jan 25, 2003 22:47:05 GMT -5
PART TWO The Fox Network are without a shadow of a doubt one of the worse media corporations when it comes to projecting a positive public image, they simply did not and do not have a clue as to merits of the series Dark Angel and the numerous socially charged issues that it dealt with, such as the controversies of illegal diversion of government revenues to fund scientific experimentation on humans, corrupt politicians, and a police department that was open to bribery, and extortion, secret cults that had infiltrated and hi-jacked various government agencies, as well as many social injustices which our society is dealing with today, however James Cameron and Charles Eglee have managed to incorporate the many storylines in the context of a very entertaining and enlightened series without preaching from a soap box. The Dark Angel gave us an altruistic heroine who was struggling to discover her own humanity, family values, and who with her brothers and sisters were created genetically in a covert government laboratory and indoctrinated and trained as children to be the ultimate soldiers at the beckon and call of a evil and corrupt government. However much to the chagrin of the government these kids escaped and became the enemies of their creators who wanted to either recapture or dispose of them by any means, to protect their own illegal and corrupt operations.
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One of our members recently opened their letter with the following phrase “I am confused by the unjustified cancellation of my favorite series “Dark Angel”, well we are no longer confused we have thoroughly researched the events that led to this cancellation, and we are more than prepared to prove our point that this cancellation was the result a personal vendetta and extremely faulty decision making by the powers in charge at the Fox Network. Gail Berman was appointed President of Fox Broadcasting Entertainment in May of 2000, prior to this appointment she was the Co-Executive Producer of the WB network series Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel along with her former associate Joss Whedon, please note this fact will become a very important factor later.
Dark Angel debuted on October 3rd 2000, from the onset our group considered the series’ concept to be truly original and unique. The pilot episode appeared on the network in the 9:00-10:00PM time slot Tuesday night and was seen by 17.4 million viewers and was considered by Time Magazine to be the 10th best program of the year, the series went on to attract an national average weekly audience of 10.24 million viewers and an average weekly ratings/market share of 6.56/10.07 for the complete 2000-2001 season. This series according to web site Thefutoncritic.com was rated the 9th valued series of the aforementioned season. However even though the time slot was demographically ideal for the series to succeed on a ongoing basis and it was deemed to be a rating success by most experts. However at some point of time during the 1st season the actions of Gail Berman and the Co-Executive Producer Rene Echevarria served to sabotage the series by convincing the Co-Creators James Cameron and Charles H Eglee to move the Dark Angel at the beginning of the 2nd season to the demographic graveyard of Friday night at 8:00-9:00PM and then eventually to the 9:00-10:00PM time slot that was even worse demographically, but even so it was still able to attract an national average weekly viewing audience of 6.02 million and an national ratings/market share of 3.83/6.86.
In addition to moving the series they convinced Cameron and Eglee to change the concept of the series by introducing a host of new, genetically altered characters called “trans-humans”, which entirely changed the dynamics of the series which had the age demographics of what we believe to be 18 to 49 and beyond, to a series that was targeted to an audience of under the age of 20. Most young people in their late teens or early twenties are out on the town on Friday night, but that fact was all part of the pre-conceived plan by Gail Berman and her former associate Joss Whedon who has been rumored to have said he hated the Dark Angel which he claimed that Cameron named his series to steal the audience of his series called Angel, which is a laughable joke, to compare Angel in any way to the Dark Angel is totally ridiculous.
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Post by UncleGordo on Jan 25, 2003 22:55:36 GMT -5
PART THREE We would now like to deal with the ratings/market share and viewing audiences as they relate to three series which are all part of what appears to be a conspiracy against our favorite series, Dark Angel. In the season 2000-2001 Dark Angel which occupied the time slot of 9:00-10:00PM Tuesday night and attracted a national weekly viewing audience of 10.24 million and an average weekly ratings/market share of 6.56/10.07, we might add that this was accomplished with what we understand was a very meager advertising and promotion campaign. Now lets compare those ratings to Berman’s new pet series Twenty-four which occupied the 9:00-!0:00PM time slot in the 2001-2002 season and enjoyed a very aggressive advertising campaign but even so the series could only attract an national average weekly viewing audience of 8.62 million and the average weekly ratings/market of 5.42/8.17, now if we just take a minute to digest those numbers, if our mathematics are correct that is a weekly loss in your viewing audience of 1.62 million but don’t we have to project that loss over the 21 seasonal episodes of the two series which amounts to a potential loss of 34.02 million consumers for your advertisers’ products or services. Just in case you think our mathematics are incorrect, the total viewing audience of Dark Angel’s 21 episodes for 2000-2001 was 229.6 millions for an actual weekly average of 10.9 million and compare that to the total viewing audience of Twenty-four’s 24 episodes for 2001-2002 was 206.8 million for an actual weekly average of 8.62 million
The second part of this equation relates to the comparison of Dark Angel to the series Firefly which was created for the Fox Network by Berman’s former Co-Executive Producer on Buffy and Angel namely Joss Whedon, I might also add that Gail Berman was also listed as the Co-Executive Producer of Firefly, now this practice might be very normal when it comes to the entertainment business but is it acceptable corporate governance, it most definitely does not meet the criteria for an arm’s-length transaction. Now lets deal with the comparison of the two series as it relates to the ratings, during the 2001-2002 season Dark Angel was slotted in the demographic graveyard of 8:00-9:00PM and then eventually moved to the much inferior time slot of 9:00-10:00PM Friday night but still managed to attract an national average viewing audience of 6.02 million and the ratings/market share of 3.83/6.86 and then it was dealt the final indignity of a pre-conceived
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cancellation in favor of Firefly which in its’ ten episodes could only attract an national weekly viewing audience of 4.48 million and average ratings/market share of 2.88/5.20 again a substantial weekly reduction of 1.54 million and a projected loss of 32.34 million potential consumers for your advertisers’ products or services over the 21 seasonal episodes. To the credit of the Fox Network these numbers relating to Firefly are now final, and they have finally come to their senses and canceled this ill fated and poorly conceived series. I might also add that many of the disgruntled fans of the Dark Angel have been boycotting the Fox Network since the Dark Angel’s cancellation and have vowed to continue until we get a resolution to the lack of closure to the series..
In light of these facts and figures relating to these three series we would suggest a comprehensive review is in order as to all of the programming provided to your corporations by the Fox Network, just look at the numbers that the series Twenty-four is attracting this season, namely an national weekly average audience of 10.57 million and the average ratings/market share of 6.36/9.62 and these numbers are the results of a very aggressive advertising and promotion campaign, but compare those numbers to the numbers that Dark Angel got in the 2000-2001 season with substantially less advertising and promotion. I might also add that according to reports that Berman and Fox are glowing over the ratings for Twenty-four, which they claim makes that the series a rating success, but Newscorp did the same on their web site in their Business Description of June 2001 with the Dark Angel, and look what happen to that series at the end of its’ second season.
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Post by UncleGordo on Jan 25, 2003 23:13:30 GMT -5
PART FOUR I hope that you assess this letter in the manner in which it was written, this letter is not a personal protest, but was written as a representative of the millions of disgruntled fans who devoted countless hours to the series Dark Angel over a two year period only to be cheated and betrayed by the Fox Network with the cancellation which left the series with many outstanding storylines and without closure. All of the facts, figures and information stated in this letter have been thoroughly researched and are all related to the U.S. television viewing market, and whether I reside in Canada or Timbuktu is immaterial. In closing this letter might be your first introduction to our campaign to resurrect the Dark Angel in some form but I can assure you that it will not be the last, our efforts have been ongoing for the past seven months and we have no intentions of quitting now, we are going to do everything in our power to entice the Fox Network into being a responsive corporation and to clean up their public image and start treating their viewers properly, that is if they want to have viewers in the future. Yours truly, Up to this point in time I have sent copies of this letter to the following principals, and major corporations who own a number of the independent affiliates. Andrew Butcher - Vice President - Corporate Affairs and Communications - Newscorp Ltd. Sandy Grushow - Chairman - Fox Broadcasting Entertainment James Cameron - Executive Producer, Co-Creator “Dark Angel” Jessica Marie Alba - Principal Lead Actor “Dark Angel” M. William Butler - Vice President -Sinclair Broadcast Group Paul Brissette - Chairman & CEO - GoCom Communications William G. Moll - President - Television - Clear Channel Communications Randy Bongarten - President - Television - Emmis Communications Paul McTear - President & CEO - Raycom Media Companies Patrick J. Mullen - President - Television - Tribune Company Michael Delich - President & COO - Waitt Media Brill Bundy - Editor - tv.zap2it.comPaul Austin - Editor - www.showdown.net/newswireJohn S. Vial - Vice President Engineering & Operations - LIN TV CORPORATION Kevin P. O’Brien - President - MEREDITH BROADCASTING GROUP J. Daniel Sullivan - Owner - QUORUM BROADCASTING c/o Abry Partners Inc. Benjamin Tucker - President - FISHER COMMUNICATIONS Mr. Milton Grant -President & general manager - GRANT COMMUNICATIONS Email Copies to CC OF AMERICA - Vincent J. Curtis Jr @ Fletcher, Heald & Hilbreth PLC, www.curtis@fhh.comEllen E. East -Vice President - Corporate Communications - COX ENTERPRISES ellen.east@cox.com William S. Reyner Jr. Esq - President -MISSION TELEVISION Harry J. Pappas President - PAPPAS TELECASTING -
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Post by UncleGordo on Jan 26, 2003 1:30:42 GMT -5
Hey Everyone !!! I have just discovered that when I was doing my research into the ratings/market share and audience size of Dark Angel and the other two series I used two web sites as the resource centers for the information I gathered, well both of those sites have been shut down. The 1st site was www.boxofficemojo.com/tv who were shut down by Nielsen because they were apparently providing to much ratings data thus Nielsen was lossing revenue. The 2nd site was www.thefutoncritic.com who provided archive information for the past television seasons, with the information going back to the 2000-2001 season and proved to be a very useful site, well that site has now been shut down apparently to give the guy who run the web site a rest. I not so sure that the networks especially Fox didn't like the fact that their ratings were readily available for anyone to use, could this be another conspiracy, to go along with the relationship between Berman and Whedon.
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Post by UncleGordo on Jan 27, 2003 1:15:54 GMT -5
I am posting the following which I hope that the members will utilize as a source of information when they are formulating your snail mail or email to the affiliates
The Logistics of Target The Affiliates —— the Struggle Continues Campaign
When targeting the affiliates it is important that you present an argument or theme of your letter or email that reflects on the well being their company ‘s or stations’ well being, in other words their pocket book. In the Entertainment Business everything relates to the ratings/market share and audience numbers, this is how they generate their income, the better the numbers of their programming, the more they can charge for their advertising.
The most effective way of presenting that argument is the comparison of the three series that were involved in all of the aspects relating to movement and the eventual cancellation of Dark Angel. The numbers relating to DA in the 1st season 2000-2001 in the Tuesday 9:00PM time slot were 1) Pilot Episode attracts 17.4 million viewers and ratings/market share of 11.2/17, that episode was considered by Time Magazine to be 10th best program of that season. 2) national average weekly audience for the complete season was 10.24 million 3) national average weekly ratings/market share for season 6.56/10.07 4) total viewing audience for the season’s 21 episodes was 229.6 million for an actual weekly average of 10.09 million 5) the web site Thefutoncritic.com rated the series as the 9th valued series of the season, and DA was in the top four rated series of all the Fox programming.
Now compare those numbers to Berman’’s new pet series Twenty-four which replaced DA in the Tuesday 9:00PM time slot in the 2001-2002 season. 1) Pilot episode attracts 11.6 million viewers and ratings/market share of 7.5/11. 2) national average weekly audience for the complete season was 8.62 million 3) national average weekly ratings/market share of 5.42/8.17 4) total viewing audience for the season’’s 24 episodes was 206.8 million for an actual weekly average of 8.62 million.
Lets take a minute to digest those numbers Twenty Four had a weekly loss of 1.62 million viewers from the numbers DA attracted in the same time slot the previous season and a potential loss of 34.02 million consumers for the affiliates’’ advertisers’’ consumers
The second part of this equation relates to the comparison of Dark Angel to Firefly. During the 2001-2002 season, Fox moved DA to the demographic graveyard of 8:00-9:00PM and eventually to the even more inferior time slot of 9:00-10:00PM Friday night, however DA still managed to attract an national average weekly viewing audience of 6.02 million and weekly ratings/market share of 3.83/6.86, now compare those numbers those of Berman’’s designated replacement Firefly which was shown in the Friday night 8:00-9:00PM time slot in the 2002-2003 season. Here are the numbers that FF attracted, national average weekly viewing audience of 4.48 million and average ratings/market share of 2.88/5.20 again a substantial weekly decrease of 1.54 million and a projected loss of 32.34 million potential consumers for the affiliates’’ advertisers products or services.
Now if you relate this information to the replies that English_Rose received from Andrew Butcher and Brian Kelley whoever he is, 1) the action of Fox in moving DA from Tuesday to Friday night resulted in the loss of 4.22 million viewers per episode and a total of loss 88.62 million for the full season. And then when you relate their decision of cancelling of DA in favour of Firefly which resulted in a loss of 32.34 million viewers for the network. It just endorses my opinion that the actions Berman and the other powers to be at the Fox Network sabotaged Dark Angel and there was absolutely no justification for the cancellation other than an obvious hidden agenda.
It is also quite apparent that although both the Fox Entertainment Group and Newscorp Ltd. are publicly traded corporations, that the independent directors of those corporations are only provided with sufficient information of the Fox Group’s operation to provide a limited cursory review of that corporation operations, how else can you explain the sabotaging of a known asset (Dark Angel ) that attracted a viewing audience of 229.6 million for what they hope will prove to be a better asset (Twenty Four), but could only attract an audience of 206.8 million, and even in the second season of that series was only able to attract an average viewing audience of 10.90 million and ratings/market share of 6.57/9.83 with a substantial advertising and promotional budget, and that is only marginally better than those of DA the series it replaced.
I would hope that you utilize these facts and figures and the other information that has come to light over the past 7 or 8 months in your letters to the affiliates, ultimately they are the big losers whether they want to admit it or not.
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Post by sseattle on Jan 27, 2003 1:22:18 GMT -5
Okay - that is just too weird! Where are Scully and Mulder when you need them?
One site could be just bad luck, but two really does seem like an awful big coincidence. But the Futon Critic will be back in a couple of months. Maybe we will have more DA news for him!
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Post by Web Warlock on Jan 30, 2003 22:15:52 GMT -5
The loss of the Futon Critic is a shame really. If you need data for Firefly, here is a site that has it. home.insightbb.com/~wahoskem/firefly1.htmlIf through my own notes or contacts I can find another site with the numbers I will pass it on here. Targeting the affliates is good idea. They are on the front lines and they are the ones that lose when viewers walk away. There is still a shot. Firefly is gone, never coming back and the "save firefly" people have all but given up. Show Fox that you have not. Warlock
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