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Post by Mr.Clark on Aug 8, 2009 12:33:33 GMT -5
Can we hope for a relationship after hours that we rarely if ever see, with teasing and a few private jokes sprinkled here & there? Thats exactly what I would like to see. if they did something.
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Post by Michele on Aug 8, 2009 23:04:28 GMT -5
have it like how they did with Abby and McGee in season 1, they were dating but didn't have them going at it in the show.
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Post by AngelZ on Aug 9, 2009 23:02:34 GMT -5
Anyone that thinks that the writers can effectively bring these 2 characters together without spelling doom to the show is living in la-la land. I sincerely hope that the writers find a way to wind back the clock on the Tiva relationship and leave the shippers to get their jollies in FanFic.
I am annoyed that the producers have used the Tiva thing to promote the show to such a point that it's dominated all publicity. They need to realise that just as many viewers that are titillated by the Tiva concept, there are just as many that are turned off.
A couple of comments from the article link that caught my eye
UGH...I'm in the drive them apart group. I definitely do NOT watch NCIS for the Tiva-fest & I watch it every week. I do watch it for the comedy & character development but do not see why romance between main characters has to be a part of that.
NCIS is not and never has been a romance show
If people want to enjoy the subtext they see then fine, but I do object to it being shoved down the throats of those who DON'T see the subtext.
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Post by Michele on Aug 10, 2009 0:00:32 GMT -5
Anyone that thinks that the writers can effectively bring these 2 characters together without spelling doom to the show is living in la-la land. I sincerely hope that the writers find a way to wind back the clock on the Tiva relationship and leave the shippers to get their jollies in FanFic. I am annoyed that the producers have used the Tiva thing to promote the show to such a point that it's dominated all publicity. They need to realise that just as many viewers that are titillated by the Tiva concept, there are just as many that are turned off. A couple of comments from the article link that caught my eye UGH...I'm in the drive them apart group. I definitely do NOT watch NCIS for the Tiva-fest & I watch it every week. I do watch it for the comedy & character development but do not see why romance between main characters has to be a part of that.NCIS is not and never has been a romance showIf people want to enjoy the subtext they see then fine, but I do object to it being shoved down the throats of those who DON'T see the subtext.i agree. plus Don Bellisario said he would never have a big romance in NCIS for what happen with JAG, but now that Shane B has taken over the show... I have not seen Michael talk about Tiva, only Cote and Shane.
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Post by Mr.Clark on Aug 10, 2009 19:53:08 GMT -5
Anyone that thinks that the writers can effectively bring these 2 characters together without spelling doom to the show is living in la-la land. I sincerely hope that the writers find a way to wind back the clock on the Tiva relationship and leave the shippers to get their jollies in FanFic. I am annoyed that the producers have used the Tiva thing to promote the show to such a point that it's dominated all publicity. They need to realise that just as many viewers that are titillated by the Tiva concept, there are just as many that are turned off. A couple of comments from the article link that caught my eye UGH...I'm in the drive them apart group. I definitely do NOT watch NCIS for the Tiva-fest & I watch it every week. I do watch it for the comedy & character development but do not see why romance between main characters has to be a part of that.NCIS is not and never has been a romance showIf people want to enjoy the subtext they see then fine, but I do object to it being shoved down the throats of those who DON'T see the subtext.Thats a very valid opinion. I don't know what the directions going to be for this season but last seasons finale was a definite wedge in the Tiva story line that put major distance between them, at least thats how I saw it. I like the current dynamic but I think this past season (before the finale) showed that you can't keep that chemistry going forever. Bones is a perfect example of a show that tried to live on that knifes edge of simmering tension for so long that its starting to curdle. They have to either take the plunge or get off the ledge and I don't think theres a chance in hell of them just letting it dissipate. Personally I still believe it can be accomplished without it killing the show. I think CSI had the right idea with GSR, they had it going for almost a season where it was just these little moments that never distracted from the focus of the show. I think if Jorja Fox hadn't been on a power trip and forced her way out of the show and if William Peterson hadn't left CSI would probably be the first show to break the moonlighting curse. I think the reason this same approach could work for NCIS is because NCIS is much more CSI than Moonlighting. While I've never actually watched Moonlighting from what I gather the hole show was really about the dynamic between Bruce Willis and Cybil Shepard, they were the core of the show so they're interaction was crucial. Thats why a show like Bones or Castle should be much more weary. Tony and Ziva are not the central characters in NCIS, so if they got together the writers could dance around there relationship without letting it take over in the same way CSI did.
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Post by AngelZ on Aug 10, 2009 20:22:01 GMT -5
Unfortunately it's already taken over.
They've exploited the publicity over this thing to the point where there can be no middle ground in the future. They will either have to consummate the relationship and then blow it up in some spectacular fashion resulting in someone leaving or alternatively douse it with one mighty iceberg.
IMO the producers have fed the Tiva-beast to such an extent that they're now too scared to take it away. In the end what they will deliver will result in 'Meh' for the show.
I'm still waiting for someone to give me an example of a UST couple that has successfully moved forward to the next stage without the show losing it's sparkle or resulting in one of the characters leaving.
I truly hope that the producers find a way to tame the Tiva-beast and have the guts to return it to the background where it belongs. Actually I don't necessarily think that it's the writers who are over emphasizing it in the storylines - but rather the publicity machine that's turning the show upside down.
I hope you're right. It's unfortunate that they seem to be using the Tiva thing again to drum up publicity for the new season.
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Post by Michele on Aug 10, 2009 20:38:32 GMT -5
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Post by shywriter on Aug 10, 2009 22:46:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the link, Michele -- this is essentially the same info as before but (I think) with one major addition -- is this the first posting to attribute the "s word(s)" (as in, 'sleep together') to SB or to anyone from the show?
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Post by Mr.Clark on Aug 11, 2009 1:23:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately it's already taken over. They've exploited the publicity over this thing to the point where there can be no middle ground in the future. They will either have to consummate the relationship and then blow it up in some spectacular fashion resulting in someone leaving or alternatively douse it with one mighty iceberg. IMO the producers have fed the Tiva-beast to such an extent that they're now too scared to take it away. In the end what they will deliver will result in 'Meh' for the show. I'm still waiting for someone to give me an example of a UST couple that has successfully moved forward to the next stage without the show losing it's sparkle or resulting in one of the characters leaving. I truly hope that the producers find a way to tame the Tiva-beast and have the guts to return it to the background where it belongs. Actually I don't necessarily think that it's the writers who are over emphasizing it in the storylines - but rather the publicity machine that's turning the show upside down. I hope you're right. It's unfortunate that they seem to be using the Tiva thing again to drum up publicity for the new season. I think its premature to call this coming season a DOA, they promised a lot more Tiva last season than they wound up delivering. It wouldn't shock me if they were overselling it. While I can't claim it as a success I still maintain they had the right idea for developing a ship on CSI with GSR. I don't think the ship is what caused that shows current problems I think the reason CSI is in the state that its in is because Jorja Fox got greedy and William Petterson got bored/tapped out. Were it not for those two factors CSI might have broken the stigma. That being said I think you might have to accept an eventual Tiva pairing or start preparing an exit strategy. I don't say this because its what I want just that I think its an inevitability at this point. Shane Brennan is taking the show down another course. DPB was a military geek (rather like me) he wanted the stories and the military aspect to be front and center and for the most part it was under his tenure. He was careful to keep things warm but not hot between Gibbs/Jenny and Tiva by bringing in Mann and Jeanne. Shane Brennan is a more character focused writer and he's going to focus more on the interaction between the characters. At some point Tiva will have to be addressed and I don't think they're willing to alienate the Tiva segment by destroying the ship. So something going to happen hopeful SB is smart enough to keep it out of center stage for the most part.
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Post by AngelZ on Aug 11, 2009 19:35:42 GMT -5
I'm afraid that I'd rather clean a dirty toilet than watch an episode of CSI. WP in particular annoys the bejesus out of me. I have actually watched one episode - but he wasn't in it. They're all too holier-than-thou-i'm-cleverer-than-a-packet-of-peanuts for my tv taste. JMO of course as everyone else on the planet seems to like the show. I so hope you are right. But still annoyed with SB or whoever it is that continues to use the tiva thing as a cheap promotional tool.
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Post by ML Fan on Aug 11, 2009 20:07:07 GMT -5
As far as overselling the Tiva storyline, I really wouldn't be surprised and I say this because Season Finales like "Angel Of Death" and this last season's finale, I thought that both finales were predictable with both finales in my opinion being overhyped as well. I don't think Tiva are the next Gibbs and Jenny because, I thought that Gibbs really didn't respect Jenny and that the team followed his lead more often than not. I don't think the writers and TPTB really knew if she was going to be Gibbs's ex-girlfriend or his boss and by the time she was given her own storyline, I had already lost interest in her character. Gibbs already seemed really unhappy with Vance when he split up his team and I think that if the team is somehow split up again other than right now that I wouldn't be surprised if Vance left.
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Post by Michele on Aug 12, 2009 4:09:42 GMT -5
maybe with some of the same writers as Dark Angel, NCIS will do the love bug thing too. lol poor MW.
wonder who will hook up in NCIS:LA?
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Post by Mr.Clark on Aug 12, 2009 11:20:51 GMT -5
maybe with some of the same writers as Dark Angel, NCIS will do the love bug thing too. lol poor MW. wonder who will hook up in NCIS:LA? I could watch Kensie romance with a desk lamp. That being said if I had a choice I'd probably be Nate the psychic dude just because he seems the most interesting of the characters.
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Post by Michele on Aug 12, 2009 23:47:35 GMT -5
extras for season 6 NCIS DVDs
Disc 1 has the "Bodies of Work" featurette in which NCIS cast member Brian Dietzen(Jimmy Palmer) gives us NCIS fans a tour of the Special Makeup Department that specializes in making the macabre realistic corpses and body parts for the morgue & autopsy scenes in NCIS; Disc 2 has a Featurette named "Fear:A DVD Exclusive" in which Pauley Perrette(Abby Sciouso) gives an great acoustic version of her song, "Fear" that appears on the NCIS soundtrack CD; Disc 3 has a featurette called "Starting With A Bang" that gives a look at Season's 6 opening story arc; Disc 4 does not have any featurettes; Disc 5 has a Featurette called "Horsin Around" about the "South by Southwest" episode and finally Disc 6 has two featurettes; "Season 6:Cruising Along" in which the cast and crew of NCIS reflect on some of the major events of the season and "Six Degrees of Conversation" in which the whole NCIS cast members talk and discuss about Season 6. There are three audio commentaries on the following NCIS episodes: two on Disc 4 with David McCallum(Ducky) comentating on episode "Broken Bird" and Micheal Weatherly (DiNozzo) on "Bounce" and one on Disc 5 with Pauley Perrette(Abby) commentating on "Toxic". All in all , another great DVD release of another great season of NCIS.
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Post by Michele on Aug 29, 2009 19:59:55 GMT -5
Michael and Cote will be on Entertainment Tonight on tuesday.
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