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Post by ML Fan on Apr 21, 2008 22:25:54 GMT -5
Have you seen "Internal Affairs?" Tell us what you thought. There are spoilers over at our sister board NCIS Special Ops, if you're interested.
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Post by AngelZ on Apr 23, 2008 20:22:39 GMT -5
Seen it and loved it. Gave it a 10 over at Special Ops. I guess that leaves me know where to go for the rest of the season?
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Post by Michele on Apr 24, 2008 1:19:23 GMT -5
I saw this episode online, and I agree with everyone it was a great episode.
everyone did a great job.
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Post by ML Fan on Apr 26, 2008 12:19:07 GMT -5
This was my favorite episode of NCIS this season and I thought that this was one of the few times in the last two years where I would rewatch an episode and one of the few times that I thought that the flashbacks were used well. I would like to know how McGee is doing with his new dog. I didn't like Jenny in this episode, because as it to me the episode reinforced how unprofessional she is. I also hope that this is the last that we see of Jeanne. Fast National ratings for Tuesday, April 22, 2008 "NCIS" put CBS in second with a 9.1/14. Here's the link, www.zap2it.com/tv/ratings/zap-ratings042208,0,1335943.story
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Post by Aerie on Apr 26, 2008 13:01:11 GMT -5
That's hilarious - why should Jenny be professional when none of the others are. None of those goofy characters would last out the month in the real NCIS. Heck, the real anything.
Gibbs is the most unprofessional, then Abs and Tony. I'm not sure about McGeek. How 'bout that 'Ziva. I love her when she's unprofessional.
I admit I haven't watched the ep yet so I can't comment on any of their unprofessional behavior in Internal Affairs.
Since that's the reason I watch NCIS, I'm sure they'll make me happy. ;D
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Post by dzero on Apr 26, 2008 13:13:41 GMT -5
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Post by shywriter on Apr 26, 2008 13:45:16 GMT -5
Liked it a lot (especially Tony's shout out to Curly Neal & Meadowlark Lemon! give it up, peeps, some of you know them-- right??) Serious question, though: asking in a way I hope won't spoil it for people who haven't seen the episode yet-- what do all of you think was behind Tony's answering "no" to the Big Question at the end? I have a couple different theories and am not confident about either! What say you?
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Post by Aerie on Apr 26, 2008 13:54:23 GMT -5
For dzero shy - you can write the question here because we have **SPOILERS** in the thread title. Even tho I haven't seen it I've read all about it at Special Ops. Was it the Jeanne goodbye? I read a lot of theories about it from the fans - What do you think?
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Post by dzero on Apr 26, 2008 14:03:41 GMT -5
Liked it a lot (especially Tony's shout out to Curly Neal & Meadowlark Lemon! give it up, peeps, some of you know them-- right??) LOL, yes and yet I still fell for Tony's trick ;D Spare her even more pain. It's never going to work between them now anyways, admitting his true feelings for her now would just make it worse. At least that's what Tony is thinking. I would have preferred a Casablanca type ending where he admits his feelings but acknowledges they can never be together. Yes I just compared NCIS to Casablanca . FWIW I liked this ep until the Jeanne Vs. Jenny scene. just don't think it was believable that Jeanne would do that and even if she did she wouldn't crumble so easily. Just makes no sense IMO. But "the team" pulling together in this episode was fun . P.S. Casablanca on my mind because I just read that the girl who played the newlywed died www.nytimes.com/2008/04/26/movies/26page.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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Post by ML Fan on Apr 26, 2008 14:26:36 GMT -5
That's hilarious - why should Jenny be professional when none of the others are. None of those goofy characters would last out the month in the real NCIS. Heck, the real anything. Gibbs is the most unprofessional, then Abs and Tony. I'm not sure about McGeek. How 'bout that 'Ziva. I love her when she's unprofessional. I admit I haven't watched the ep yet so I can't comment on any of their unprofessional behavior in Internal Affairs.
Since that's the reason I watch NCIS, I'm sure they'll make me happy. ;D I think that Jenny is written the most inconsistently out of all of the series regulars and that Gibbs doesn't respect her in the way that he did Director Morrow and that it seems that whenever something in a case or an investigation goes wrong, the writers somehow put the blame on Jenny or they make her look awkward. I think that given that NCIS is a male dominated show that I think it would've been better if the NCIS director were a guy and not a series regular. I think that it wasn't a good idea to make the director of NCIS a series regular because, I knew that the writers would have a problem trying to figure out what to do with her on an every day basis and I think that six regular characters was already pushing the limits as far as screen time without a director there full time.
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Post by Aerie on Apr 26, 2008 14:35:11 GMT -5
Make up your mind. Unprofessional or inconsistent or all of the above. Why should the NCIS director be a #&%^ $^#* man? A woman is as good as a man for an executive position, or any position. Shut up dzero. I say dump the geek and the autopsy gremlin and leave the Shepard and hire 2 new females. ;D The writers are probably having a ball writing her. Day to day consistent writing of a character gets a little boring for the guys. Yeah, they are guys. They've tried a couple of females but it didn't work out. Hmmmm, I wonder why.
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Post by ML Fan on Apr 26, 2008 15:05:31 GMT -5
In this case, I think that the writers hold the fact that Jenny is a female against her and I think that she's written in an inconsistent and unprofessional manner and I think that was the same type of attitude by the writers was what doomed Kate.
I'm not into watching something where I know that the minute that I see someone on screen that a mistake of some sort is going to happen or something awkward is going to happen. I am happy that we have Ziva and Abby.
I think that for the first year that she was there that Jenny really didn't do anything except by being some kind of foil for Gibbs.
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Post by shywriter on Apr 26, 2008 16:11:35 GMT -5
Liked it a lot (especially Tony's shout out to Curly Neal & Meadowlark Lemon! give it up, peeps, some of you know them-- right??) LOL, yes and yet I still fell for Tony's trick ;D Oh, no, man, as soon as Tony said "Meadowlark Lemon" I knew right where he was going with it! (how many decades-old is that gag?) Yeah, I suspected that was what the writers intended, 'cos not only is Tony a guy but the writers are, too. I'd been meaning to ask hubby his impression too, so just did, and his response was exactly the same as yours, dzero (well, without the Casablanca bit!) And see, that is just *so* male! (Now I'll be curious to see if the women here agree!) Guys assume "messy" is bad, and know that if he said he never loved her, it would mean "closure" and she'd be better off. Yeah, right! Better for the guy, because she'll never be around and not bugging him to see of they could start over, yada yada -- but here's this chick who put all her trust in a guy and is left to think that she had been SO totally played, she can never trust a guy again, blah blah blah... however, if he'd been a real mensch (notice that Ziva said "be a man" instead?) and acknowledged it started as an assignment, but he then had real feelings, no matter what happened with the relationship she could know that she hadn't been such a terrible judge of character, and can just be mad at him for doing that for a job but nor devastated that she had been so totally fooled by him? I'm just sayin.' And now you know why Casablanca is my favorite movie and I just sounded off about a stupid TV show! (and see, for two months from now, who had the better closure, Jeanne or Ilse? Unless Jeanne comes back and does Tony in, and then I'll be really pissed. At least at that point I'd get an hour of my life back every week, cos no way would I ever watch NCIS after that.)That reminded me of a couple scenes in DA that bugged me, because they had such emotional shifts, so quickly -- until I realized they were late in the show and probably crammed in the small space of time remaining. I agree that the Tadpole crumbled quickly, but it might have seemed more probable if it had been in a more realistic amount of time. Maybe if the writers hadn't been limited by the 47 (?) minute format, they could have done it better...?
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Post by shywriter on Apr 26, 2008 16:13:19 GMT -5
shy - you can write the question here because we have **SPOILERS** in the thread title. Who reads titles? (thought they were just for show, anyway.)
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Post by shywriter on Apr 26, 2008 16:19:35 GMT -5
Serious question, though: what do all of you think was behind Tony's answering "no" to the Big Question at the end? I should have added my other question, what did Ziva mean when she told Tony to "be a man?" (again: male writers, but writing for a female now.) Hubby thinks she meant to do just what he did, "to cut her loose." I thought it might be just to face her, talk to her (he was going to let her leave without saying anything) -- and to apologize for using her, for lying. (do you think that the writers who actually get paid for crafting those lines give even 1/10th this much thought about what the characters' lines mean? )
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