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Post by ML Fan on May 21, 2007 11:31:54 GMT -5
Have you seen "Angel Of Death?" Tell us what you thought. This is the last new episode of the fourth season.
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Post by shywriter on May 22, 2007 18:30:08 GMT -5
Okay, about 30 min to go for some of us before this ep starts! Am I the only one who is way too obsessed with this to be healthy? At least I have -- what else? -- a glass of pinot gris and a batch of hummus & pita for the occasion... Okay, no connection: but I left work early for this sucker, and got home & had a glass of wine, and after one glass hummus started sounding good so I made a batch...
And yes, I make my hummus. This is the Deep South; it's either home made or from Wal Mart...  |
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Post by dzero on May 22, 2007 18:50:51 GMT -5
You need to be careful eating while watching NCIS, the autopsy scenes aren't so bad but all those drug commercials that are always in every commercial break?  I don't need to ever see another commercial with an old guy ( 60ish ) smiling and doing something active while a narrator is talking about erectile dysfunction or mentioning "leakage" among the potential side affects.   |
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Post by Michele on May 22, 2007 19:31:51 GMT -5
Ok now I'm worryed after reading this at the NCIS special ops forum.
Will DiNozzo's trials on NCIS this season finally force the irrepressible prankster to grow up? Michael Weatherly (Tony DiNozzo) says: this was defintely the season that saw a change in DiNozzo. It's a result of his attempt atbeing team leader at the beginning of the year [when Mark Harmon's Jethro Gibbs temporarily retired] and not measuring up. He knew he had to dig deeper and find the man inside the man-child. And what do we get? A Tony DiNozzo that cries and says "I love you" to his girlfriend, Jeanne [Scottie Thompson]! But it took 24 episodes this year to finally blow everything up. After the finale Tony will be radically changed. The question is will he be able to live with himself?
thanks yllek at special ops.
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Post by shywriter on May 22, 2007 20:32:06 GMT -5
You need to be careful eating while watching NCIS, the autopsy scenes aren't so bad but all those drug commercials that are always in every commercial break? I don't need to ever see another commercial with an old guy ( 60ish ) smiling and doing something active while a narrator is talking about erectile dysfunction or mentioning "leakage" among the potential side affects. Definitely the upside of coming home early tonight & noshing before the show started-- usually I'm running in just in time for the first "thuuummmpp" and wolfing down whatever Hubby was nice enough to make (heh, like it's ever different: at our house it's "Taco Tony Tuesday." Every damn week!  ) and getting a mouthful just in time for a close up of Ducky doing something Duckyesque to that week's body... (and those ED ads: are we the only ones who laugh hysterically at the warning to report any sudden vision loss? < or are we the only ones who remember the old riffs on "if you don't stop it you'll go blind...?>  ) oh, and SPOILER for tonight... ... ... ...   |
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Post by ML Fan on May 22, 2007 20:47:45 GMT -5
I've read fanfics that were more interesting and compelling than this season finale, I would've been happier if Jeanne had been killed off in this Season's finale instead of dragging her into Season Five because, even though the secret mission storyline with Tony was supposed to be interesting and intended to show a more mature side of Tony, I don't like how he is written when he's with Jeanne. I think that Tony just isn't as invested in the relationship as Jeanne is and she showed that again tonight and I don't think she has really taken Tony's feelings into account and that the relationship has been written poorly and that it doesn't feel believable and I don't see any chemistry between them. I am hoping that Jeanne is gone and gone quickly in Season Five. I also thought that there was way too much Madam Director and I think that the storyline with Jenny's father would've been interesting if it had been used earlier instead of the overkill rehashing of her past with Gibbs, but, at this point a storyline with the director comes too little, too late for me. I did like seeing Ziva express an emotional attachment to someone even though I also like seeing her be the no-none-sense tough girl. I think that I would've liked this episode a lot more if the real regular characters not including the director had more to do in this episode. I also thought that this episode had no real surprises or a case. I gave this episode a zero at NCIS Special Ops.
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Post by shywriter on May 22, 2007 21:25:21 GMT -5
even though the secret mission storyline with Tony was supposed to be interesting and intended to show a more mature side of Tony, I don't like how he is written when he's with Jeanne. I think that Tony just isn't as invested in the relationship as Jeanne is I'd like a more mature Tony too; like you I'm not crazy about the "him" in this relationship. I'm guessing (given the "mature" plot ideas DPB & his people come up with) Jeanne was a part of Tony's mission originally & in the middle of it, he fell for her (helps explain his waiting longer than usual to jump into bed with her, and the couple times when someone would ask whatever, he'd say he didn't want to hurt her/for her to be hurt." Of course, that makes the whole scene with his seeking Jenny's approval to get her in the sack weird or purposefully hazy as to why he asked her...) More crummy writing of women's parts: do we really buy the idea that someone bright enough & clear-headed enough and together enough to be made director of a federal agency (and to the rest of you Daily Show fans-- I know what you're thinking!) would really become such an irresponsible blithering idiot because of Daddy issues Come on! Definitely a bright spot in this whole sordid mess! One point for Ziva and her scene. With Ziva's one point I add two more for letting Tony live. He's worth WAY more than two points, but since we weren't really worried about losing him, his survival doesn't bump my vote higher than 3. Edited to a 4 for the episode, for Ducky's Scots brogue toast! |
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Post by ML Fan on May 22, 2007 22:04:44 GMT -5
As soon as Tony asked Jenny if he could sleep with Jeanne I knew then that she was in some way part of his secret mission most likely. I think that while Tony cares for her that it seems to me that Jeanne wants more than he is willing to give at this point and that she hasn't put his feelings into consideration as much as she should have, each step of the way it seems like she is forcing Tony to do or express something that he isn't ready for and so while he does care for her, his feelings for her come across as less sincere given how she has acted.
She's just written too poorly and inconsistently to be believable or to really feel anything for, when I see I usually expect something to go wrong and put her in a less than stellar light, not the type of thing you want to see in a director. I don't care about this storyline with her father.
Ziva seems to understand and pay more attention to Tony's feelings than Jeanne does.
I gave this episode a zero in part because nothing surprising happened and I didn't see much of the real regular characters not including the director.
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Post by dzero on May 22, 2007 23:45:30 GMT -5
Definitely a bright spot in this whole sordid mess! One point for Ziva and her scene. I missed about ten minutes of the episode, from where the drug guy comes out of the morgue pointing the gun to where Jeane starts cutting into the guy. I assume Ziva's scene was during this time? Anyone want to sum up for me?  Liked the toast as well . Oh and I guess we now know why the producer guy is leaving....he was obviously fired for the whole angel of death subplot. |
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Post by shywriter on May 22, 2007 23:52:35 GMT -5
I was just peeking onto Special Ops and something I read made me realize I must have missed something (probably many things , but...) Does Jeanne not know what Tony does for a living and/or where he works? I just assumed she knew (dopey, I guess, come to think of it, to assume this). Do we know for certain, one way or the other? If we do, and he has *not* told her he's at NCIS, do we know what he's told her he does for a living? I would think that it was pretty obvious when he grabbed his hip & mentioned a gun he's not a standard insurance salesman or computer programmer... |
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Post by ML Fan on May 22, 2007 23:58:25 GMT -5
I haven't gotten the impression that she knows what he does or who he works for yet, but, he knows that when the whole truth comes out that there are bound to be problems which could be part of why he's dragging his feet as far as getting a house or making any further committment to her.
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Post by shywriter on May 23, 2007 0:11:46 GMT -5
I haven't gotten the impression that she knows what he does or who he works for yet, but, he knows that when the whole truth comes out that there are bound to be problems which could be part of why he's dragging his feet as far as getting a house or making any further committment to her. Thanks -- the job thing had just never crossed my mind, so I was wondering if I'd missed something there. |
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Post by Michele on May 23, 2007 0:40:19 GMT -5
Michael had a bad back when he was filming this episode. He said it just got better in time to film the bit when he gets hit and falls to the ground.
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Post by AngelZ on May 23, 2007 2:50:28 GMT -5
Oh and I guess we now know why the producer guy is leaving....he was obviously fired for the whole angel of death subplot. LOL! I haven't watched the ep yet, but based on the negative comments that I've read at Special Ops I was wondering the same thing too! If the ep turns out to be as dissatisfying as it sounds, then I will be very very cranky! I require demand payoff in a season finale. |
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Post by shywriter on May 23, 2007 8:44:35 GMT -5
Now I'm talking to myself... Does Jeanne not know what Tony does for a living and/or where he works? I just assumed she knew (dopey, I guess, come to think of it, to assume this). Just rewatched some of this and caught what I missed the first time through  : the Frog called Tony "Professor" in the limo. Whether or not he's told/convinced Jeanne that's what he does, or it's what Jeanne tells Rich Daddy it's what her cop boyfriend does, I still don't know.
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I don't need to ever see another commercial with an old guy ( 60ish ) smiling and doing something active while a narrator is talking about erectile dysfunction or mentioning "leakage" among the potential side affects.
) and getting a mouthful just in time for a close up of Ducky doing something Duckyesque to that week's body...
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Come on!
