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Post by Mr.Clark on Feb 28, 2010 13:44:20 GMT -5
I think it might be time to take Burn Notice off my regular viewing schedule. It's been way too formulaic this season with yet another all powerful yet mysterious bad guy making life miserable for Michael and his team . But last weeks episode really ticked me off, it was the best ep of the season by far and at the end after they had defeated the eps antagonist and he opted for suicide instead of prison they threw away all credibility and rescued him In the shows first couple of seasons they would have let him die. There must be a Jump the shark smiley somewhere on the internet Perfect microcosm of the biggest pitfall in network television, at some point the story is always sacrificed to keep the status quo that the writers and network thing is their cash cow. Yet another reason why the Wire was such a great show, they would routinely kill off central characters if it furthered the story, or if keeping them held it back. Personally I think NCIS has been bouncing off this wall for a while now with Tony's development as at some point either he or Gibb's has to move on and spread his/their wings. Of course the writers are doing everything they can to avoid this hence the split personalities that only seem to be getting more and more polarized as each new season progresses.
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Post by shywriter on Feb 28, 2010 14:42:37 GMT -5
Perfect microcosm of the biggest pitfall in network television, at some point the story is always sacrificed to keep the status quo that the writers and network thing is their cash cow. Kinda what I was thinking about Psych, I'm afraid -- I lost interest after the first half of the first season cos it was a great premise, but for me it never went anywhere -- always the same, week after week. I suspect the secret for those who might see that comment and disagree strongly, thinking it was fresh and fun each week, was if the viewer actually liked the actors and how they played the characters. They were always pretty meh for me, so I wasn't as captivated when people I wasn't crazy about kept doing the same thing. I recognize exactly what you mean about NCIS, but maybe because I like the characters (though really wish they weren't so made so schizophrenic by the writers) I'm tolerating the "stuck in a rut" bouncing more than viewers may be. I really would rather see them stuck and alive than killed off -- yeah, less show quality but I don't want to give any of these characters up.
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Post by Mr.Clark on Feb 28, 2010 17:50:47 GMT -5
Perfect microcosm of the biggest pitfall in network television, at some point the story is always sacrificed to keep the status quo that the writers and network thing is their cash cow. Kinda what I was thinking about Psych, I'm afraid -- I lost interest after the first half of the first season cos it was a great premise, but for me it never went anywhere -- always the same, week after week. I suspect the secret for those who might see that comment and disagree strongly, thinking it was fresh and fun each week, was if the viewer actually liked the actors and how they played the characters. They were always pretty meh for me, so I wasn't as captivated when people I wasn't crazy about kept doing the same thing. I recognize exactly what you mean about NCIS, but maybe because I like the characters (though really wish they weren't so made so schizophrenic by the writers) I'm tolerating the "stuck in a rut" bouncing more than viewers may be. I really would rather see them stuck and alive than killed off -- yeah, less show quality but I don't want to give any of these characters up. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy NCIS and the characters are still fun but its its getting to the point where its hard to ignore the lack of development, outside of McGee. I mean in season 5 it was just starting to be visible but 2 seasons on its become painfully obvious.
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Post by dzero on Mar 1, 2010 16:00:44 GMT -5
Kinda what I was thinking about Psych, I'm afraid -- I lost interest after the first half of the first season cos it was a great premise, but for me it never went anywhere -- always the same, week after week. I suspect the secret for those who might see that comment and disagree strongly, thinking it was fresh and fun each week, was if the viewer actually liked the actors and how they played the characters. They were always pretty meh for me, so I wasn't as captivated when people I wasn't crazy about kept doing the same thing. Yes you are right about Psych being dependant on the actors and their charm and humor but they are far from meh
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Post by dzero on Mar 1, 2010 16:05:12 GMT -5
Perfect microcosm of the biggest pitfall in network television, at some point the story is always sacrificed to keep the status quo that the writers and network thing is their cash cow. Yet another reason why the Wire was such a great show, they would routinely kill off central characters if it furthered the story, or if keeping them held it back. For the record I tried the Wire again just last week whne I noticed that it's premiere ep came up in the 'On Demand" rotation. I lasted about 3 minutes I agree with the whole Tony/Gibbs observation, but for some reason it doesn't bother me. Certain shows you expect to be ultra realistic and certain ones you don't .
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Post by Mr.Clark on Mar 1, 2010 19:05:33 GMT -5
Perfect microcosm of the biggest pitfall in network television, at some point the story is always sacrificed to keep the status quo that the writers and network thing is their cash cow. Yet another reason why the Wire was such a great show, they would routinely kill off central characters if it furthered the story, or if keeping them held it back. For the record I tried the Wire again just last week whne I noticed that it's premiere ep came up in the 'On Demand" rotation. I lasted about 3 minutes I agree with the whole Tony/Gibbs observation, but for some reason it doesn't bother me. Certain shows you expect to be ultra realistic and certain ones you don't . You have to give it at least 2-3 episodes not 2-3 minutes. I guarantee you if your not hooked after 3 full episodes you never well be but unless you give it that you'll never appreciate the most brilliant work of pure genius ever to grace the small screen.
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Post by shywriter on Mar 1, 2010 19:52:33 GMT -5
Yes you are right about Psych being dependant on the actors and their charm and humor but they are far from meh Sez you. (yes, yes, I know who is Mr. TV here and who isn't, but even Mr. TV can have a few clinkers in his arsenal... ;D)
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Post by shywriter on Mar 1, 2010 19:57:06 GMT -5
I guarantee you if your not hooked after 3 full episodes you never well be but unless you give it that you'll never appreciate the most brilliant work of pure genius ever to grace the small screen. Notwithstanding the genius/non-genius of the Wire (as usual, haven't seen it) but don't need to to point out that "the most brilliant work of pure genius ever to grace the small screen" (Logan Cale of course excepted) is Fawlty Towers. ;D
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Post by Mr.Clark on Mar 1, 2010 20:06:12 GMT -5
Yes you are right about Psych being dependant on the actors and their charm and humor but they are far from meh Sez you. (yes, yes, I know who is Mr. TV here and who isn't, but even Mr. TV can have a few clinkers in his arsenal... ;D)Clearly. I guarantee you if your not hooked after 3 full episodes you never well be but unless you give it that you'll never appreciate the most brilliant work of pure genius ever to grace the small screen. Notwithstanding the genius/non-genius of the Wire (as usual, haven't seen it) but don't need to to point out that "the most brilliant work of pure genius ever to grace the small screen" (Logan Cale of course excepted) is Fawlty Towers. ;D Ehhh no, nothing tops the Wire because it was more than just a TV it was a work of art that had a breadth and depth the likes of which Faulty Towers couldn't begin to fathom.
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Post by shywriter on Mar 1, 2010 20:21:53 GMT -5
Ehhh no, nothing tops the Wire because it was more than just a TV it was a work of art that had a breadth and depth the likes of which Faulty Towers couldn't begin to fathom. To the rest of the board, members & friends: Don't mind him. He's from Barcelona...
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Post by Aerie on Mar 1, 2010 21:25:46 GMT -5
¿ Que
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Post by dutch on Mar 1, 2010 22:09:39 GMT -5
You started the war.... You invaded Poland.
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Post by shywriter on Mar 1, 2010 23:16:36 GMT -5
You started the war.... You invaded Poland. Don't mention the war!!I did once but I think I got away with it...
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Post by mari on Mar 2, 2010 14:47:56 GMT -5
For the record I tried the Wire again just last week whne I noticed that it's premiere ep came up in the 'On Demand" rotation. I lasted about 3 minutes I agree with the whole Tony/Gibbs observation, but for some reason it doesn't bother me. Certain shows you expect to be ultra realistic and certain ones you don't . You have to give it at least 2-3 episodes not 2-3 minutes. I guarantee you if your not hooked after 3 full episodes you never well be but unless you give it that you'll never appreciate the most brilliant work of pure genius ever to grace the small screen. I was just told yesterday that I need to watch 'The Wire' to understand certain US cities. ;D
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Post by AngelZ on Mar 2, 2010 17:45:06 GMT -5
Poor Chuck is alone...again. Casey is da Man!!! Also enjoyed the latest Psych. Lassie's psych-out had me in stitches. ;D MrAZ and I have started our Wire DVD collection. We have S1 so far. Now all we need is some time to sit down and watch it.
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